A number of states had passed laws saying that an under-age girl seeking an abortion needed to get the permission of her parents. Some girls, inevitably, went to neighboring states instead, and Congress was considering a bill prohibiting this. Host and guest often talk past each other in this passionate discussion; we get both points of view clearly laid out, but not much interaction between them. WFB: "Don't you acknowledge the emotional trauma of people who go recklessly into the abortion mill without giving it the kind of consideration that might result from consulting their mothers?" GF: "Let me question a few of your assumptions. First, the biggest one is what the trauma is. The trauma is the unintended pregnancy."