Mr. Buckley had just published The Redhunter, a novel based on the life of Joe McCarthy (who had also been the subject of his second book back in 1954, McCarthy and His Enemies). This high-energy three-way conversation begins with the Senator but quickly moves to the subject of his investigations. WFB: "The Communist Control Act ... said: The Communist Party is not a party. Don't go around saying it's just like the Republican Party, it's just like the Democratic or the Socialist. It's not. It's the agency of a foreign power. Now if that is correct, oughtn't there to be some organized resistance to its imposture ... ?" VSN: "I think it's incorrect. The Communist Party was a party. It also was, at the leadership level, responsive to taking its line from Moscow. But at the membership level... they were people in Harlem who were fighting rent strikes and making common cause with the local merchants, regardless of what was said in Moscow...." HK: "I grew up in a milieu where there were many families that, children and parents, were members of the Communist Party. Everybody understood that their first loyalty was to the Soviet fatherland. It didn't even have to be spelled out. It was understood that what served Soviet interests came first."