Another look at what is wrong with our schools and what might be done to fix them, this time focusing on whether the teachers unions, are putting self-interest ahead of the interests of the children. These two longtime adversaries tell us a lot in the course of a hard-hitting but mostly good-natured debate. SF: "Right now we are in a situation where we are seeing enormous improvement in our schools, and placing blame or pointing fingers isn't going to help us continue with that improvement..." SS: "There is a certain segment of our school population that is doing terribly. And we know who we're talking about: inner-city kids, kids in, for example...the South Bronx, in Bedford-Stuyvesant, in Harlem, vast wastelands...high schools where in many years more kids are killed outside the front of the school than wind up getting Regents' diplomas...And the reason we ought to both try to find blame and try to find alternatives is that we have a great stake in this as a society."