"In 1991, Arthur Schlesinger wrote a good book," WFB begins provocatively concerning his sometime adversary. But he goes on, "The Disuniting of America began as a long essay and blossomed into a short book, greatly needed and much celebrated, though not by everybody." The book argued that present-day multiculturalism engendered not a tolerance of cultural differences within a whole, but rather a divisive "identity politics." This rich conversation explores how we differ from the English founders of our country, how our attitudes on race have evolved (AS: "[America is] the country that killed red men, enslaved black men, imported yellow and brown men for peon labor. We did it thoughtlessly, without consciousness of what we were doing. The only good Indian is a dead Indian, and so on. Now we've become much more conscious of the fact that, as Paul says, we are all members one of another..."), and how this affects our politics today. WFB: "It seems to me that you worship rather too strenuously at the altar of civil liberties so defined. I don't acknowledge the right of Nazis to march." AS: "I am surprised, Bill, that you deplore liberty." WFB: "In order to maximize liberty, one sometimes has to." AS: "But I think it is dangerous to set precedents which can be used against your own side."