Meanwhile, back to the other stuff you smoke. The previous year some forty state attorneys general had made a pact with the tobacco companies with the aim of reducing tobacco use generally, but particularly among minors, and Senator McCain was pushing for the Federal Government to get more involved. A genial, sometimes enlightening traversal of familiar ground. WFB: "The stimulation of an ethos is a very, very difficult thing to do. Now in my judgment it has substantially succeeded in the matter of tobacco. You go to a reception, a social reception, and practically nobody is smoking--anybody who does smoke is very conspicuous--contrasted with forty years ago, half the people would be smoking...." JM: "But let me point out that you and I go to a reception and nobody's smoking. But if you and I went down to the mall, we'd see a whole lot of teenagers smoking. And that's the problem that I think we're trying to grapple with."