Mr. Loury, as WFB recounts in his introduction, had taken such exception to Mr. D'Souza's latest book as to resign from an organization (the American Enterprise Institute) with which they were both affiliated. Their exchanges on this show are civil, and it is clear that they agree on more things than not; but as to the points of disagreement, neither is going to convince the other. GL: "Is the point here that there's a much higher rate of teenage births to black girls, or is the point that American society is plagued with a problem of young, unmarried girls having babies?" DD: "I certainly don't disagree that we're faced with certain problems that are American problems.... And yet, in a sense, the rain doesn't fall evenly in all communities.... I think it is simply mindless to deny that we do have ethnic groups in this country, not just whites and blacks ... but we have the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, and so on, and there are perceptible differences between groups."