These sessions are a bit calmer than the ones on welfare reform, and light as well as heat is generated. RI: "We first need to start by declaring that the Social Security program devised in 1935 was a phenomenal success--but a success whose time has passed ... We need to design a new plan now--not a 20th-century plan: design a 21st-century plan from scratch." ... JB: "I would point out that the people who become more disabled and less capable of working are disproportionately poor. Those who have lived a better life, a higher-income life, continue working much longer." ... RS: "If you say to people, 'Look, we're going to get rid of Social Security; it doesn't work. Trust me, I'm from the government. I'm going to build you a new and better retirement system,' you're going to get a very skeptical response." ... PdP: "Twice as many young people believe in UFOs as believe that they are going to get their Social Security benefits when they retire."