A rich discussion, broad and deep, with the man who was our ambassador to West Germany when the Berlin Wall came down. VW: "One of the things that governs in Germany ... is the measure of guilt felt towards different countries. The greatest measure of guilt is felt, I think, towards Poland--justifiably. The second greatest measure of guilt is France--unjustifiably. The French were treated better than almost anybody else who was occupied by the Germans...." WFB: "What about Russia?" VW: "That's where you'd expect the largest one to be, and there's some, but it's a recent phenomenon. . . . When the Soviet Union was threatening and still blockading Berlin and keeping the Wall up they didn't feel any guilt." . . . VW: "Every time somebody in Europe would say to me: 'Why don't you put your financial house in order?' I would say: 'How do you think it got out of order? It got out of order defending you! ... And you Europeans--just remember that we are the only country in history that ever financed its competitors into competition with us.' I know, I was in the Marshall Plan administration and I saw it happen." WFB: "And no regrets?" VW: "I think not, overall. We've won the long war. Freedom has won the long war."