Back to shouting on the Middle East, in a show that offers a microcosm of the

conflict there. SZ: "To say that Jordan is not Palestine is just a historical lie ... It was

Palestine until 1946 ... That should be a starting point for Palestinian nationalism. In

1947 they rejected that state. In 1967 they used that territory that they said they'd be

satisfied with to launch a war. And then they said that the PLO is their sole and exclusive

representative, and the PLO is dedicated to the destruction of Israel--and they say so."

JZ: "That's not true." SZ: "From that territory, from that land that they were never

satisfied with, you want to set up another state. It would be quite suicidal for us to do that. No other country would be asked to do that." JZ: "It would be suicidal for Israel to

maintain an occupation over a million and a half people who, in fact, resist that

occupation."