Mr. Buckley invites his guest to start by looking at the War Powers Act of 1973

and the current American presence in the Persian Gulf, and to go on from there.

Impressive and articulate, Mr. Weinberger has no trouble keeping track of both forest and

trees. WFB: "I can understand people who get annoyed when ... the Spanish tell us that

they're not going to really let us use their air base--the primary purpose of which is to

defend Spain, not Wichita." CWW: "Well, it's to defend NATO. Another purpose that

is very close to the primary purpose is to defend the United States. We aren't in NATO

and we aren't in Japan for altruistic reasons only. We're there because forward defense is

the very best kind of defense. I would much rather defend California in New Guinea or

South Korea than I would in Oregon."