Our two guests truly embody "the Catholic controversy." Monsignor Clark is a

traditionalist who says, "Our opinions don't matter; we're pursuing the truth here of what the Church teaches in its formal tradition as Christ's teaching." Father Curran is the professor who had been told by the Vatican that he could no longer teach theology at a pontifical university because of the heterodoxy of his views; he says: "The Church will never change and it will never make the word and work of Jesus meaningful and appropriate in the contemporary scene unless theologians are able to raise these questions [e.g., concerning birth control]." Despite the high stakes, the tone is extraordinarily genial, and the discussion highly accessible to the layman, Catholic or not.