Springboarding off the previous show, this one examines more general questions relating to sentencing, clemency, and parole. Mr. Frankel was largely responsible for the 1984 regularization of New York State sentencing practices, but he and Mr. Tigar are agreed, in this deep and often passionate discussion, that those reforms did not go nearly far enough. MF: "Our sentencing practices ... have given unbridled power to judges to fix a sentence substantially without rules." ... MT: "Whenever you have great public decisions that affect vital human concerns being made in a corner, and in a fairly dark one at that, you ... open the way to all manner of finagling and corruption."