The discussion ranges widely, from the differences between Socialism and

(Soviet) Communism to the way the French conducted the war in Indochina. But the main topic is M. Rocard's current portfolio, agriculture, and the way it fits into the global political economy. MR: "You have a very large country with a small density of human beings per hectare. When there is too much space you can always abandon some land and let it go back to desert... We have no flexibility at all... . Such a long occupation of this land that we cannot gain any new land, but we cannot either abandon it." ... WFB: "We conservatives do not want commercial war. We don't want trade wars. We don't want tariffs. Are you as theoretically committed to free trade as American conservatives?" MR: "Any intelligent man is committed to free trade. Even Socialists can be intelligent."