We learn a lot about chief opponent, although the conversation doesn't click the

way it often does on Firing Line. Guests and host range over the KGB's historical

successes and its use, today, of the Cuban DGI as a very useful subsidiary--the more useful, Mr. de Borchgrave suggests, because people who had trouble idealizing Brezhnev, Chernenko, or Andropov could see Castro as "the great liberator of the Third World." Mr. Barron: "It is exceedingly difficult to attract anyone today in any part of the world to the Soviet cause on the basis of ideological appeal. In the Thirties most of the great agents recruited served selflessly out of ideological motivation, out of the belief that they were serving mankind. Most of the cases we know about today involved greed or ego."