The discussion focuses less on Mr. Kissinger's latest book than on foreign policy

past and present. Think what one may about some of Mr. Kissinger's policies, there is no doubt that one is in here the hands of a master. HK: "One of the dilemmas of foreign policy is that when your scope for action is greatest, your knowledge on which to base such action is at a minimum; if you wait until all the facts are in, then the scope for creative action may disappear. When the Germans occupied the Rhineland in 1936, how did we know that they intended an aggression? Since one didn't know, one didn't do anything. By 1940, everybody knew that the Germans intended an aggression, and they paid for that knowledge with 20 million lives."