Mr. Ashworth had joined the organization of which he is now chairman when he

learned that two of his three sons were homosexual; Professor van den Haag has frequently treated homosexuals in his clinical practice. The discussion--often painful, because of Mr. Ashworth's very personal concern with the subject--ranges from the views of homosexuality in different societies throughout history to pertinent laws in the present-day United States. EvdH: "Attitudes towards homosexuality have been more or less tolerant, more or less prohibitive and so on, but I know of no culture where it is regarded as a normal, accepted form of behavior." ... RA: "How can society say to somebody who is homosexual, 'Forget that; forget what you are, and get married and have children'? I think that would be reprehensible." EvdH: "I certainly would agree to that."