An absorbing hour with a guest who had been a radical well into the Sixties, when, as he tells it, he faced a choice between "loyalty to radicalism and loyalty to intellectual values"--much like his mentors at Partisan Review thirty years earlier, who had "found it increasingly intolerable to be told [by the Communist Party] that they were not permitted, for example, to admire T. S. Eliot, whom all of them considered a great poet, because Eliot was a reactionary in his political views, and also because he was a modernist in his technique, and modernism was regarded as a form of bourgeois degeneracy by the Party." In Mr. Podhoretz's case, he was first struck by the fact that the "Free Speech" Movement at Berkeley "began shouting down speakers who were in disagreement with its views." He and WFB begin with Lionel Trilling and the Sixties wars at Columbia, and go on to the Vietnam War, the Cold War, and the battle against affirmative-action quotas.