Mr. Duffey's appointment had caused some controversy, not least because President Carter had said that he wanted to get rid of "elitist attitudes" in the Endowment. We begin with a discussion of elitism vs. snobbism, and go on to an account, full of detail, of how someone goes about getting a Humanities grant. Mr. Duffey: "The Humanities Endowment has been so confused with the Arts Endowment. ... I remember being asked right after my appointment by one reporter that it was rumored that this Administration wanted to take money away from the Metropolitan Opera and give it for hog calling in the Midwest. I couldn't think of what to respond, so I said, 'Well, hog calling is an art. The study of hog calling and the history of hog calling would be the humanities.'"