Mrs. Ulanovskaya speaks slowly and with a very heavy accent, but it's worth the

effort to hear the story she has to tell--of her husband's connection with Stalin, of her work as a spy in the United States (one of her agents was Whittaker Chambers), of her disenchantment and banishment to Gulag. NU: "When we were in the States [in the Thirties], it was the first time--not that I began to doubt, but that I felt, with some reason, we couldn't do what the capitalists had achieved ... In the States, in spite of that terrible time of the Depression ... to us it didn't look terrible at all." WFB: "You mean by contrast with what you had experienced?" NU: "We saw those jobless people who still ate better. .. . You know, some Communist sympathizers once showed us some slums, but those slums didn't impress me at all." WFB: "Made you feel at home?" NU: "Well, the way we personally lived in Moscow at that time was worse."