We are not quite two years into Mr. Dukakis's governorship--before the
Massachusetts Miracle, also before Willie Horton. A lively exchange on the financial relationships between the Federal Government and the states, on protectionism, on welfare, and more. WFB: "Now I'm not suggesting that Massachusetts should have been punished for voting for George McGovern, but I'm suggesting that there might be some relationship?" MD: "We had lived through four years of Nixon as it was, so it really didn't make an awful lot of difference." WFB: "That's right, but those four years of Nixon's showed your GNP going up rather dramatically, didn't it?" MD: "But it showed our prices going up rather dramatically as well, and our unemployment rate beginning to climb too." WFB: "Well, it's true. It's quite true that the inflation which was the principal patrimony of Lyndon Johnson had to be paid somewhere along the line. However, let's not make this a partisan program." MD: "But Nixon continued the war that caused it in the first place." WFB: "You're talking about Kennedy's war?"
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