Mr. Pike was chairman of the House committee investigating the CIA, post

Watergate, and there is spirited give and take on questions such as under what

circumstances the U.S. might intervene in a foreign country and whether Mr. Pike could, in demanding sensitive documents from the Administration, guarantee that his committee colleagues would not leak them. WFB: "Now isn't it a formalism for you to say that your committee can in fact receive intimate Executive documents and assure that they will not emerge as part of the public record?" OP: "No, I really don't think it is a formalism. You've made your point twice and I've denied it twice." WFB: "No, you've made a theoretical rejection of my point. I'm asking you now for an empirical rejection." OP: "It is not a formalism."