A wide-ranging and deeply engaging discussion of Israel's past and present, how she fits into the Cold War picture, and, especially, her relations with the United States. WFB: "To what do you trace America's commitment to Israeli survival?" SR: "I don't like this phrase 'survival.' It has so many associations since World War II." WFB: "I quoted Henry Kissinger's words exactly." SR: "That's why I don't like it; because the usual phrasing, at least in the past, was 'America's commitment to Israel's security and survival,' which makes a lot of difference. You also made commitments to the survival of the orphans of Vietnam." ... SA: "The major involvements of American foreign policy were not made in terms of American global strategic interests." WFB: "Wilsonian?" SA: "Either Wilsonian, or a feeling by a majority--white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant--that America had to stand by Britain . .. And I think what's happening now is that many Americans, not only Jews, feel that their affinity to Israel is one way of expressing their Americanism, in the same way that WASPs did in 1914 and 1941."
- Hoover ID: Program S0186
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