This show was the first nationally televised appearance of the future President, and a former associate of Governor Carter's later told Mr. Buckley that it was the first time he had heard the new, less Georgian accent. The Governor, who was the immediate successor to the segregationist Lester Maddox, had struck out on a dramatically new course by saying, in his inaugural address, "I say to you quite frankly that the time for racial discrimination is over." Since then he had argued, as WFB puts it, "that Southern governors nowadays face other problems, much the same as those faced by governors of states outside the South." In this encounter, Governor Carter sounds quite conservative in talking about welfare and incentives, and specifically the advantages in having job-training programs and attendant industry dispersed throughout the state so that "instead of moving to Atlanta and living in a 20-story-high apartment complex," poor farmers can

commute to a local job that pays a living wage; hence "we haven't had the massive move off the farm areas into the cities that other states have."