Five months before this show, WFB had taken as his text, for a commencement address at West Point, Mr. Kerry's sensational testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about the barbarism of our activities in Vietnam. Neither host nor guest has changed his views since, but there is light as well as heat generated on Vietnam in particular and morality and foreign policy generally. JK: "I want very much to create a world order in which we can somehow live-" WFB: "Well, do you think Lyndon Johnson doesn't want to?" JK: "No, I don't think he didn't want to. I don't think Richard Nixon doesn't want to, frankly.... I don't subscribe to the theory that so many of my contemporaries do, that he is necessarily an evil man." WFB: "You just say that your moral vision is more acute." JK: "I think he is highly misguided."