Had we come through the worst of the student agitation, or was there, as WFB puts it, "a great Gotterdammerung ahead of us"? Our two guests, at opposite ends of the country, had both been treated to hands-on student violence. Mr. Banowsky had arrived for work one morning to find that "our major academic building was confiscated, and very shrewdly ... chained from the inside. ... You've got to call the police, you see; here are your own black students." Mr. Roche had returned to Brandeis from a stint in the Johnson Administration to be greeted by some "fortunately ... effete arsonists," who didn't succeed in burning down the building where his office was located. A wide-ranging, no-punches-pulled discussion of the current militants, the genuine grievances they were playing on, and the proper model for a college administration.