Senator McGovern-who had been a leader in the anti-Johnson, anti-Humphrey forces in 1968, and who had already begun running for the 1972 Democratic nomination-was probably best known for his opposition to the Vietnam War; but his other big issue was, as WFB puts it, "the inadequacy of our war against poverty, more concretely against hunger." This proves to be a fast-moving and informative exchange, beginning with the Soviet Union's routine agricultural disasters and going on to our own "paradox," as Mr. McGovern puts it, which is hunger "at a time when we can produce more than enough to take care of all of our people." Specifics come from both the supply side (as WFB puts it, we "send great gobs of money to rich farmers, like Senator Eastland,... paying them not to grow food") and the demand side (Senator McGovern quotes "studies show[ing] that poor people, dollar for dollar, do a better job of buying what they ought to eat than the rich do").