WFB begins by quoting the celebrated exchange when Bobby Seale had asked his prospective lawyer in the Chicago 8 trial, "Are you as good as Perry Mason?" Mr. Garry had replied, "I'm better. Both of us get our clients off, but Mason's are innocent." On to that trial itself, where some of the defendants' disruptions were in protest at Judge Hoffman's refusal to grant a delay until Mr. Garry had recovered from gall-bladder surgery. CG: "Oh, I think the defendants were exceedingly well behaved." WFB: "Okay. There was one defendant who shouted at Judge Hoffman for having pictures on his wall of George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, because he said they were slave owners. Now was that-" CG: "Do you know why he said that?" WB: "Well, just tell me why he said it." CG: "That was Bobby Seale who said that.... Do you know why he said that?" WFB: "Why?" CG: "Because the judge said that he was not a racist himself, and stated his own background ... to satisfy the old doctrine that some of my best friends are Negroes, and Bobby Scale said, How can you say that you're not a racist when in back of you you have all of the racist so-called fathers of our country?"
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