Not only did Senator Goldwater take on, in 1964, a race that he was bound to lose not so much against Lyndon Johnson as against the memory of the fallen leader but under Arizona law he had had to resign from the Senate in order to do so. In 1969 he had triumphantly returned to Washington, "escorted," as WFB puts it, "by a Republican President whose election in turn it is quite widely conceded would have been unlikely but for the race of 1964." WFB begins by asking his guest "what did he have in mind when, last spring, he chided dissatisfied American conservatives who were critical of Mr. Nixon." The Senator replies in pure Goldwater mode: "Well, nothing but the same thought that I've always had when I've chided fellow conservatives who are acting as conservatives should. To put it another way, they're speaking their own minds." And we're off on an examination of the Nixon Administration, the Vietnam War, and how one might begin rolling back "35 years of statism."