"When Governor Rockefeller appointed Charles Goodell to the vacancy left in the Senate on the death of Senator Robert Kennedy," WFB recalls, "observers struggled to situate him in the ideological spectrum. On the one hand his [American Conservative Union] rating was very high; on the other hand, his biography handout appears to qualify him for the presidency of the ADA." On this show, Senator Goodell adroitly sidesteps any attempt so to situate him. (Two years later, Mr. Buckley's brother James, running on the Conservative line, unseated Mr. Goodell.) WFB: "I should like to begin by asking Senator Goodell whether he feels any sense of ideological obligation either to his predecessor, Senator Kennedy, or to his benefactor, Governor Rockefeller." CG: "I think my sense of ideological identification is with the things I believe in very deeply.... They call me Mr. Constructive Alternative in the Republican Party, because I did feel that it was not enough to say No to programs that were offered that were deficient; that we should offer a better answer."