Mr. Roche had incurred the wrath of many of his former associates by going to work for Lyndon Johnson. As WFB puts it, "One of [his colleagues in ADA] has said that President Johnson picked Mr. Roche as his intellectual-in-residence simply because he was the only ADA-er around who approved of Vietnam, and that if Mr. Johnson had found one other ... he'd have made him Secretary of State." A delicious hour with a guest who comes out swinging and never stops: "As far as the inner life of ADA, it's something which it must be very difficult for someone from a conservative background to understand because they're used to monolithicism and the leader blows the whistle, everybody lines up? ADA is an organization that is made up of strong-minded people who have been for twenty years engaged in all kinds of internecine and intestine brawls." ... "A while ago a fellow named Chomsky wanted to organize an International Brigade to go fight in Vietnam. I'll be glad to help. My feeling about it was I'll go over to the State Department and help get his passport cleared for North Vietnam, if necessary, and even contribute to his passage."