Sir Arnold was campaigning to persuade the Western world to stop engaging in sports contests (principally the Olympic Games) with Communist countries. This deep and rich conversation engages Christians' failure of nerve, as Sir Arnold sees it, in confronting what we would come to know as the Evil Empire. WFB: "Sir Arnold, the saying is that sports and politics don't mix. Do you agree?" AL: "Well, it depends what you mean by politics. The old classical Olympic Games were restricted, in the words of Herodotus, to those of common temples and sacrifices and like ways of life. The barbarians were excluded. The classical Greeks didn't regard that as a political difference, but the difference between civilized people and barbarians. When I broke off relations with the Nazis in skiing, I didn't consider the difference between myself and Hitler was a political difference. It was a difference between a civilized man and an assassin."