Should Red China be admitted to the United Nations, at the expense of expelling Nationalist China? Mr. Lerner has come to believe it should: "It would help a good deal if we can show them [the up-and-coming generation in the Third World] that we're not fighting men. We're not a fighting nation. We do not depend upon the exclusion of Communist China from the UN in order to really show what we stand for and what we're about." To Mr. Buckley, the problem is less the admission than the expulsion: "I'm simply saying that as a pragmatic fact I don't think anybody thinks that we are 'afraid' to bring Red China in except to the extent that we are afraid of doing something wrong.... And also that we are afraid of, for instance, the fate of fifteen million overseas Chinese, that we are afraid of the fate of twelve million Chinese in Taiwan, and we're afraid of the collapse of morale in the free sectors of Asia."