Tape 4 - Ella begins by talking about several people from the formation of the Communist International. She retells a variety of short stories about Lu and Eva Geissler; Lu's lover, M.N. Roy; Borodin selling diamonds in Central America to obtain funds for the Soviet Union; Lewis Fraina; Willi Muzenberg and how he was killed for saying it was a tragedy communists fought other communists in the purges; Ignaz Resi; Elsa Bernaut; and G. Mandel from Berkeley who at the time was still taking students to the Soviet Union and proclaiming it the promised land.

The second conversation concerns Angelica Balabanov. Ella Wolfe considers her one of the best women she ever knew. She details how Balabanov became disillusioned with the Communist revolution in Russia. Though Ella considers her a bit naive, she says she was completely devoted to her ideas. In the process, Ella discusses Victor Serge, Krivitsky, William Henry Chamberlin, Alexander Orloff, and briefly comments on the Hoover Institution and its collections.

The third conversation concerns Besedovsky and forgery in Paris and Bogan-Raditsa and Bert Wolfe's letter to Bogdan.