Tape 10 - The conversation begins with Ella discussing money matters. She says that Bertram was usually generous with money, and when he was stingy, she would remind him of their lean years and how that should influence his thinking.

Following, Myers asks for her to reflect on how they managed to have a successful marriage. She credits an admiration for Bertram as a mind, that there was always an intellectually-stimulating conversation to have, and a tolerance for each others' eccentricities.

Third, Myers asks about the couple's friends, and if they caused any problems. She says that the two did not had separate friends, that they were very choosy about their friends. Of those, she says they chose friends that had common beliefs with them. This leads her to talking about Ted Switz, a chemist and agent of the Soviet secret police, and the party purges.

Fourth, Myers asks Ella for her advice to women in light of women's liberation and how to integrate all aspects of life, such as career, family, love, marriage, et cetera. Ella says she is old-fashioned, and she believes the women's liberation movement has brought about negative changes to society, citing increasing divorce rates, single parent homes, and general unhappiness. She argues women are currently reassessing the women's liberation movement and "the pendulum will eventually swing the other way." She says the changes will impact not just the individual men and women, but their children as well.

Fifth, on the state of affairs, Wolfe argues "the pursuit of excellence has sunk very low." She is appalled as questions like "what for?" and statements such as "I don’t care."

Finally, Wolfe reflects on her association with the Hoover Institution. She first came to the institution in 1949/50 when Harold Fisher was Director. She says she was impressed by both the collections as well as the scholarship. She is critical of the institution's handling of Bertram's library of books but follows this by saying the help and cooperation given by the Hoover library and archives is higher than similar organizations throughout the world. She hopes Hoover will rediscover the importance of the meeting of minds.