Allen Drury interviews John Lehman, United States Secretary of the Navy, in the course of doing research for his next novel. Among other topics, Lehman describes where the navy has been and where it is going, relationships between the branches, how the navy has changed under the Reagan Administration, his thoughts on the Soviets and their naval fleet, and his desire to change "some fundamental institutional aspects of the navy and marine corps" by instilling a concern for leadership and strategy. Sound quality on this recording is fairly poor.